MINUTES
CITY OF GOOSE CREEK
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD MEETING
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 2010, 6:30 p.m.
GOOSE CREEK MUNICIPAL CENTER
519 N. GOOSE CREEK BOULEVARD
I. Call To Order - Chairperson Sharon Clopton
Ms. Clopton called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m.
Present: Sharon Clopton, Tom Risso, and Fred Smith
Absent: Kristen Bowden and Jeri Haga
Staff Present: Daniel Ben-Yisrael and Sarah Hanson
II. Review of Minutes - August 30, 2010
Motion: Mr. Risso made a motion to accept the minutes as submitted. Mr. Fred Smith seconded.
Discussion: There was none.
Vote: All voted in favor.
III. New Business - Minor Applications
A. City of Goose Creek Recreation - Gazebo Reroofing, Felkel Field
Mr. Ben-Yisrael presented the application. Ms. Clopton asked if this had already been installed, and Mr. Ben-Yisrael stated it was done due to the need for emergency repairs. Ms. Clopton asked who had installed the roof, and Ms. Hanson answered an outside contractor. Ms. Clopton asked if the contractor had been informed about the procedure, and Mr. Ben-Yisrael stated the work was done as an emergency repair.
Motion: Mr. Risso made a motion to accept the application as submitted. Mr. Smith seconded.
Discussion: There was none.
Vote: All voted in favor; none opposed.
B. Coach's Best Buy Motors - Wall Sign
Mr. Rucker with Nelson Signs presented the application.
Motion: Mr. Risso made a motion to accept the application as submitted. Mr. Smith seconded.
Discussion: There was none.
Vote: All voted in favor; none opposed.
C. Petro Express - Wall and Freestanding Signs
Sherri Hartsell with the Centerline Group represented the Pantry and presented the application. She explained that there was to be a complete reimaging and has submitted a couple of options, one that is predominantly red, the other white. Ms. Clopton asked what their preference was, and Ms. Hartsell responded the red option. Ms. Hartsell clarified that the beige colors included in the information were for the repainting of the building. She also explained that the red is only for the band around the canopy.
Motion: Mr. Risso made a motion to accept the application as submitted, with the beige building and the red canopy with white lettering. Mr. Smith seconded.
Discussion: There was none.
Vote: All voted in favor; none opposed.
D. 106 Bar and Grill - Freestanding Sign
Mr. John Williams presented the application. He explained that there were two designs being submitted: one that is immediately available for use, and the other that they would like to have made for permanent use. They would like approval for both so they can use the one they have available until the second one is completed.
Motion: Mr. Risso made a motion to accept the application as submitted. Mr. Smith seconded.
Discussion: Ms. Clopton suggested approving just one sign and asked Mr. Williams which he preferred. Mr. Risso asked Mr. Williams about wanting to put the other up temporarily and stated he didn't have a problem with approving them both. Mr. Smith agreed.
Vote: All voted in favor; none opposed.
IV. New Business - Major Applications
A. Red Bank Road - Convenience Store
Mr. Gary Berenyi presented the application. Ms. Clopton asked about the location, and Mr. Berenyi responded that this would be located on Red Bank Road at Old State Road, currently the old Teddy Bears location. He explained it would be built on a portion of the property he has purchased that extends to the old Swiss Miss ice cream location. Mr. Hoyt presented the site plan, explaining that the existing building and asphalt will be removed and cleared. He stated the detention pond has been designed to account for all the storm water coming from the area and to serve the future development of adjacent properties. He explained Tomanda Court will be improved and become a two way street. Currently it dead ends behind the Swiss Miss building. He stated there would be an entrance and exit on Tomanda Court. He stated there is a master plan for a retail center on the adjacent properties which he referred to as Phase 2 of the development and introduced the proposed renderings.
Ms. Clopton asked if this was a sit down restaurant and asked about the traffic generated, as she was concerned about the parking. Mr. Hoyt said it will seat 64 patrons. Mr. Risso asked about what was being reviewed for approval. Ms. Clopton stated they could review the site plan but would need actual material and color samples to approve the materials.
Mr. Ben-Yisrael asked to address Staff's comments. He referred to Staff's Comment Letter dated September 16, 2010, raising the questions about access onto Tomanda Court. Staff feels that improving Tomanda Court and creating that as a primary access to and from the site will have an adverse affect on the residential area. Staff feels the access point should be shifted back closer to the intersection of Old State Road and Tomanda Court and refigure the detention pond, shifting it NW so the entrance is at the back corner of the property at the dumpster site.
Mr. Berenyi responded that the access to Tomanda Court as designed is essential for the master plan for all phases of the proposed redevelopment. There was discussion about the possible alternatives. Mr. Berenyi stressed that Tomanda is a state road and shifting the access would adversely affect their traffic flow. Mr. Ben-Yisrael responded he feels an internal connection should be explored to the future phases 2 and 3, and phase one is what is being discussed at this point. Ms. Clopton stated she would like to know how the traffic flow is going to impact the residents. Mr. Berenyi stated again that Tomanda Court was a state road, and this is a commercial property, and he purchased Tomanda Court to provide the access. Mr. Risso stated he didn't feel the Board was able to decide whether he was able to use Tomanda Court. Mr. Ben-Yisrael stated his request was simply that other options for egress and ingress to Tomanda Court be explored and if in the end that cannot be accomplished and the applicant does receive DOT's approval to use and improve Tomanda Court, that would be another issue, but that's not known until other options are explored. Mr. Risso asked if the Board could make any decision tonight, and Mr. Ben-Yisrael suggested it be tabled until the applicant can present some alternatives. Mr. Berenyi stated he was not going to present other options. Mr. Ben-Yisrael stated that the Board has the option of not approving the project. Mr. Risso asked on what basis that would be, and Mr. Ben-Yisrael stated the Board could approve it, but because staff was asking for more information, Staff might not approve it until receiving more information for their zoning review.
Mr. Hoyt stated they would be happy to work with Staff and also to bring back to the Board materials and colors for later approval, but they hoped to receive site approval at this meeting. Mr. Ben-Yisrael suggested the Board could limit the approval to the landscaping, the internal landscaping layout and the architectural renderings; however, Staff would review the access issue from a zoning standpoint, and if it necessitates changes they would have to come back for modification from the Board; if not, they can proceed to permitting.
Mr. Risso made a motion to table the discussion until the end of the meeting. Mr. Smith seconded the motion. There was no discussion. All voted in favor.
Mr. Risso made a motion to bring the application for the Red Bank Road Convenience Store back to the table. Mr. Smith seconded. All voted in favor.
Ms. Clopton asked if it would be appropriate to consider a public hearing for this application at a later date, and Mr. Ben-Yisrael responded he felt it would be acceptable to allow public comment at this time.
Ms. Clopton summarized that the main holdup at this time is the use of the road behind the development. It was discussed that it is a state owned road being used now but not as a thoroughfare. Mr. Ben-Yisrael stated it dead ends at private property. There was discussion about Mr. Berenyi having submitted the plan for SCDOT review and approval in order to improve Tomanda Court and to provide access to this site via Tomanda Court. Mr. Berenyi stated that the drive-thru for this site requires access to Tomanda Court as well as the fact they will be having larger trucks access the site.
Mr. Berenyi detailed the exterior elevations. Ms. Clopton stated she felt the site would be congested as designed.
Motion: Mr. Risso made a motion to accept the application for the building elevations and site layout. Mr. Smith seconded.
Discussion: There was none.
Vote: All voted in favor.
Ms. Clopton asked those present in the audience if anyone wished to speak about the application.
Mr. Robert Alford, a resident of the Oaks whose property backs up to Tomanda Court, spoke about his concern that this development would adversely impact an already present drainage problem property owners had in this area. He stated those that back up to Tomanda Court use that as access to their backyards, and he is concerned about the aesthetics and sound as well. Several of the residents present questioned Mr. Berenyi about the drainage, and he responded they were aware of the issue, and their drainage plan was designed accordingly and had been approved by all the required engineering departments necessary.
Ms. Clopton ended the open discussion. She stated that some of this discussion was out of the perview of the Board and invited them to speak to Mr. Berenyi privately. She stated she felt the project may actually improve the drainage in the area. Mr. Ben-Yisrael responded the residents should also contact the City's engineer.
Mr. Hoyt presented the landscaping design for the site. He explained they were intending to relocate several of the palm trees that are presently on the site and will add several more. They are using a mix of hollies, azaleas and junipers throughout the site and are using various heights. Mr. Risso asked about the plantings at the back adjacent to Tomanda Court. Ms. Clopton asked how many trees were planned for the back, and Mr. Hoyt stated there were none. Ms. Clopton asked if they would add trees to the back side of the detention pond to balance between commercial and residential so that we try to be good neighbors. Mr. Hoyt stated the landscaping satisfies the ordinance, and Mr. Berenyi suggested staggering some tress through that area with some other intermediate shrubs as well. Mr. Berenyi stated there was a fence on the resident's side of the property. Ms. Clopton suggested, in lieu of the second fence suggested by Staff, they plant foliage. Mr. Berenyi suggested planting five live oaks along that edge and underneath those plant in the same rhythm the same plantings as on the other parts of the site.
Motion: Mr. Risso amended the motion to approve the landscaping plan with additional landscaping as discussed along the back of the building facing Tomanda Court. Mr. Smith seconded.
Discussion: There was none.
Vote: All voted in favor.
B. Montana's - Elevated Deck Addition
Mr. Clark, owner of the property, presented the application. Ms. Hanson explained the applicant had changed the material from T1-11 to vinyl siding to match the existing structure. Ms. Clopton asked for clarification of the plans, specifically the height of the structure in relation to the existing structure. Ms. Clopton informed Mr. Clark that a sample of the red roofing material needed to be submitted to Staff.
Motion: Mr. Risso made a motion to approve the application as submitted with the vinyl siding, requiring Staff approval of the roofing material. Mr. Smith seconded the motion.
Discussion: Ms. Clopton suggested this was going to look like a front porch, and Mr. Clark agreed.
Vote: All voted in favor; none opposed.
V. Comments from ARB
Ms. Clopton asked about Peachtree Bakery and their window signage, as she felt they had extensive signage that had not been approved. She asked also about Mighty Deli, stating they've installed a wall mounted sign. She also asked about Hardees. Mr. Ben-Yisrael stated we were supposed to have a rep at the meeting, as he had been in contact with the corporate office, but he would follow up with them.
VI. Comments from Staff
There were none.
VII. Adjournment
Mr. Risso made a motion to adjourn. Mr. Smith seconded. All voted in favor. Meeting adjourned at or about 7:40 p.m.
